Requiscat in Pace, Graem Bauer
He had more stones than anyone gave him credit for.
Not only will he be missed, but, I found a new respect for him.
I do not want to hear any "b-b-but... he is just as bad as the terrorists!" nonsense either.
Perhaps, someday, we will see the true extent of the conspiracy as I never did buy the whole oil lines in Central Asia thing.
Side note, the whole thing with the pixilated picture was RIGHT from "No Way Out" with Kevin Costner.
One more thing... DB Woodside is not a very good actor. His facial ticks are an amateurish attempt to look pained. He really takes me out of the moment.
Not only will he be missed, but, I found a new respect for him.
I do not want to hear any "b-b-but... he is just as bad as the terrorists!" nonsense either.
Perhaps, someday, we will see the true extent of the conspiracy as I never did buy the whole oil lines in Central Asia thing.
Side note, the whole thing with the pixilated picture was RIGHT from "No Way Out" with Kevin Costner.
One more thing... DB Woodside is not a very good actor. His facial ticks are an amateurish attempt to look pained. He really takes me out of the moment.
posted by John S. at 12:10 AM
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I must say, I didn't think the little squirt had it in him.
I saw the father killing him even before the whole thing unfolded. When Jack went into the living room, you could just tell by the way Mr. Bauer was sitting there, he was contemplating killing Graem. I thought that he was going to go back out to the van to get the gun he left on the dashboard, and then blow Graem's brains out.
I thought they were just going to end the episode at Morris being taken. Starting next week's episode with killing Graem would have been better. (Not that I'm complaining.)
The father killing him was predictable. However, it does not make sense.
Simply put, why go through the whole legerdemain?
Jack is alive solely by virtue of Papa Bauer stepping in to save him. If, all along, the two were working together, what was the point of it all? What did they gain by fooling Jack into thinking that Papa Bauer was "good?" I hope they do not leave that one unanswered because that is a major flaw.
I expect that more on this will be revealed in future episodes.
I hope.
For starters- let's me just say- the scenes last night between Jack, Graem and the father were some of the best this entire season. Flat out awesome. Graem was a great actor- and I loved how with each drip of medical torture Jack was putting into Graem he was hugging him to help him through it. I got the sense that it was actually hurting him as much as it was hurting Graem. Very well done.
For a moment- I actually believed the Dad. Going back to last week- I thought Graem had double switched on his Dad. Last night- I thought when Dad had the talk with Jack after everything was done with Graem- I believed him again. but- when they showed him alone in the living room- you knew something was up. Like Tim said- I thought he was going to shoot Graem- I didn't think he was going to inject him and suffocate him. Then- to kiss his head-- oh man-- unbelievable stuff.
Good point- John- the photo was right out of "No Way Out." No way Morris is going to cooperate-- so I give him 2 more episodes and then Chloe will lose another close friend.
Another point on DB Woodside is when he tries to make a point, his voice becomes softer, and its not believable. His speech to the cabinet about remaining true to the constitution during a time of war, wasn't well done. And, Lennox's rebuttal that George Washington fought men in red coats who walked in a straight line was hysterical. Lennox has had many good one liners.
Who's the VP? Clearly, he doesn't get along with the President. That will be an interesting development.
I'm glad Walleed wasn't killed. As I said last week- it just would have served to make Sandra Palmer's case- which would have annoyed me.
So where do we go from here??? We have 4 more nukes and Jack's Dad seems to be the puppetmaster. Everytime you think you know something about this show- you're thrown a curveball.
Great episode last night!!!
Mitch - Good point about the scenes between Jack and Graem. They made a good showing that Jack was really torn up about this. The kiss on the head, that was really good too. However, if Phil is the real puppet master, then, he was planning to kill Graem all along. Hear me out...
Graem mentioned a mechanism by which Philip was now "in place" or something like that and Graem would take the fall. For that to have been a motivation going into this whole scheme, Philip must have known that, eventually, Graem would have to get apprehended and brought to CTU. This was the stated motivation for his killing Graem. So, Philip must have known he was going to kill his own son all along?
That seems a bit, well, inhumanly harsh.
Another thing...
The President's exclamation that the suspension of habeas corpus is, somehow, "unAmerican" is well, "uneducated."
Lincoln did it. Not only did he do it, but, when Justice Taney decalred it illegal, Lincoln simply ignored him. Yeah "sic semper tyrannis" and all, but, it was necessary in a time of war and, in retrospect, things did not turn out so badly for our Country.
Perhpas he was thinking that-- or - perhaps it just saw things gettting a little too messy and he just wanted to clean things up. Jack was getting close- and clearly Dad wasn't happy about Graem telling Jack about Palmer, Michelle and Tony. Who knows what else they have been up to.
the Dad put on a good act after he killed Graem calining he had a seizure, etc. But- question- woulnd't they be able to do an autopsy and find out what was injected into the IV? Was it the same substance that Jack had initially ordered to be injected or something else? I'm not sure what it was? Couldn't they also lift prints off the syringe-- I mean he didn't really take care to cover his tracks. CTU would be able to find out Graem was murdered very quickly.
Mitch - Thought of that too.
Graem needed over 8cc of the substance to cause a heart attack.
Jack only used two applications, i.e. 4cc.
Now, the difference between the two may be to small for a normal autopsy, but, the fact that Graem died of the massive heart failure associated with the injection of the drug, AFTER the interrogation had taken place and AFTER he was stabilzed by the interrogation doc should cause a BIG alarm to go off somewhere down the line.
Prediction: Jack feels guilty that he killed his own brother...finds outit was his dad who did it... gets Oedipal on Philip's ass.
Actually- I thought the first dose was 2 cc, then the next dose was 4 cc-- for a total of 6 cc-- but regardless- it should be something they should be able to figure out.
Jack will NOT torture/kill his Dad. he will find out-- and it will cause him great great pain- so much so- he might just have to hang it up. I don't think Jack will find out about his Dad for a while though.
Do you think Dad is involved with Fayed?
Nope... Jack kills his dad in the same fashion he killed Robocop. Then, after he does that, he hangs it up. I think the dad is involved with Fayed. That is the only way to explain his sudden, unexplained, disappearance before the bomb went off.
I agree that the Dad is involved with Fayed- but somehow I don't think Jack kills the dad. 20 months in a chinese prison does something to someone-- but clearly not Jack Bauer.
Literarily speaking, I think the death of Curtis was a foreshadowing of what Jack is ultimately going to do, kill someone whom he cares for, his own father.
We shall see-- this one may be the most interesting plot of all-- Jack's biggest enemy is his own father.
It is very Freudian.
How is McCarthy able to create a fake injury to Morris' brother Timothy, know where to send it, and know where Morris is and when to catch him?
deux ex machina?
(I am not being glib. That is a good point you raise)
Tim-- are you serious?
This guy is involved with someone who just detonated a nuclear bomb on US soil-- you don't think he can come up with some bogus fax? H eknew where Morris was working- that's easy-- and he just sent it over. That's not that difficult.
John- what does your latin or whatever expression mean?
Was it a fax? I thought it was an actual call from a hospital or something. Either way, I am sure it did not just come through the CTU front desk. Then again, is there any reason it did not?
"Deus ex machina" is a literary term which designates an unexpected or improbable event or character which is introduced suddenly in order to resolve a situation or untangle a plot. It has a negative connotation, as it is most often applied to an event that challenges an audience's suspension of disbelief. However, it does not need to have such a quality.
I thought it was a fax b/c I thought Milo was holding a piece of paper and showed it to Chloe.
that could have just been a "while you were out" memo from the front desk
Oh by the way, "While you were out"- your brother was in Valenciia in the vicinity of the suitcase nuke. Nah-- I think it was something more than that.
I am not saying that the front desk got all "A"s in charm school.
All I am saying is that the piece of paper they were looking at could merely be the receptionist's recordation of the conversation she had with the individual purporting to work at the hospital.
fair enough
Over/under on Morris-- do you think he's in for the rest of the year or does he get killed for refusing to cooperate?
I give him 4 more max.
Well, the Morris thing is kind of sticky.
I don't know that character well enough, but, since other people know about his predicament, it is going to be really hard for him to engineer the device. Everyone will know that he thought his life was more valuable than thousands of others. That is a hard thing to voluntarily do.
However, on a side note, why is it that people willingly co-operate with terrorists when threatened? I mean, is there ever a terrorist who says: "O.K., despite the fact that I am on the tep ten most wanted list and you not only know where I am am and what I am up to... you lived up to your end of the bargain and, despite being a terrorist, I am honor bound to let you go so that you can immediately call the police?
Probably not. The likely scenario is that, after they coerce you into doing something for them, they will kill you. Accordingly, what kind of bargaining chip would they really have over someon in Morris' shoes?
That last comment was a little short on grammar. Sorry. I think I got my point across though.
Exactly-- look what happened during the season premier with the boy's father who delivered the device to Fayed. When he "did everything he was asked to do" Fayed said to keep him around anyway b/c he might be necessary. Once Morris gets to Fayed he will be killed. Its just a matter if he arms the devices or not. If he can manage to escape from McCarthy or CTU intervene then he has a shot.
This was the stated motivation for his killing Graem. So, Philip must have known he was going to kill his own son all along?
That seems a bit, well, inhumanly harsh.
I think Graem giving up the Palmer killing showed a little weakness and that is why Dad killed him.
Oh by the way, "While you were out"- your brother was in Valenciia in the vicinity of the suitcase nuke. Nah-- I think it was something more than that.
The box marked urgent was checked. What else do you need?
Probably not. The likely scenario is that, after they coerce you into doing something for them, they will kill you. Accordingly, what kind of bargaining chip would they really have over someon in Morris' shoes?
The answer is threaten a loved one. So Chloe will be taken.
If you don't, we kill Chloe.
Erika called Morris right away, I mean, within two seconds, I think she had inside info she was so certain. I thought the homage to No Way Out was great. I think if they take it all the way, Morris should greet Fayed with a hug and Asalam Alikim.
Even better, walk into the room and start yelling at the mirror.
Also Morris must drink Stoli.
Or, have Fayed start talking to him an Arabic and have Morris stop him because it has "been so long."
If Morris greeted Fayed with an Arabic salute- I think I would just toss my hands in the air and surrender to the writers. I'd just give up and say- "You got me."
There's no way that would happen!!!! Good one though.
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